After months of testing the upcoating theory behind snowpaw and lochs and eyes being the key to upcoating i finally did it.. it has produce an upcoat 2 weeks in a row this was the first upcoat

http://www.worldofmeeroos.com/meeroos/meeroo/2781711

Then that baby had this-http://www.worldofmeeroos.com/meeroos/meeroo/2853193

this upcoat project has worked upcoating to a dune another pair has upcoated to a terracotta and then a Kimodo there not worth much now lol,but im still happy i seem to have figured this out.